To Brine or Not to Brine

To Brine or Not to Brine

Don’t make a big to-do about the turkey; brine it, put it in the oven, and don’t think about it again.

Ruth Reichl


Thomas Jefferson wrote: “On a hot day in Virginia, I know nothing more comforting than a fine spiced pickle, brought up trout-like from the sparkling depths of the aromatic jar below the stairs of Aunt Sally’s cellar”.

Tilly: I’m with Jefferson when it comes to pickles!

Now for those of you who may be wondering what the hell I am talking about, well, sit back, be patient and grab the family bible. No, I am not going to be preachin’ at ya. Although the thought did cross my mind. I will just leave that up to Tilly the Tart. That British accent of hers will keep you listening.

Tilly: Bit concerned that you haven’t mentioned my wise words …

Olive: Wise Words, from you…remind me please.

Tilly: Oh! You know how to wound …


Have y’all noticed lately that everyone is talking about brining, as if it is something new? For those of you, like myself who speak more of a proper way, brining is pickling. Yep, just plain ole pickling, like you used make when your mamma was with ya.  I just love it when the high mucky mucks change the language to make themselves sound intelligent.

How old is pickling. Pickling might have been around since the Mesopotamians. Yep, around BC 2400, before they could begin the process, they first had to get the cucumbers from India. Therefore, the next time you crunch down on one of those beauties you can thank India for being so friendly as to share them with those “Meso people”.

Tilly: I have a suspicion sharing wasn’t necessarily voluntary.

Why cucumbers and vinegar hold a special place in the “good book”, this is the Bible to some of y’all. Don’t believe me…Numbers 11:5 and Isaiah 1:8 and as for the vinegar Matthew 27:34 and John 19:29. Look it up.

Did y’all know that pickles were declared a medical aid and a beauty aid? Aristotle praised the healing effects of cured cucumbers and Cleopatra stated that her good looks came from a hearty diet of pickles. I’m not believing either one of them statements can be proven today, so I wouldn’t be trying it y’all.

Tilly: Given that we are urged to eat sauerkraut and kimchi for digestive health, Aristotle and Cleopatra make sense. Healthy gut = healthy skin.

Well, now that you know the history of this biblical product allow me to give you some hints on what you can do with the brine that is left over.

  1. When you are finished with the pickles use your favorite raw vegetables such as sliced red onion, cauliflower, carrots and celery in pickle juice and soak in refrigerator. They are great just for snackin’ or for the tops of salads.
  2. Use as a Marinade for chicken or shrimp: 1-cup juice to ½-cup olive oil, 1 clove minced garlic, in a zip-top bag. Add one pound of either chicken or shrimp, roll it in the liquid and marinate for 1-hour before grilling. You may also use parsley in the marinade.
  3. 3 tablespoons to ¾-cup mayonnaise and mix with 3 pounds of cooked potatoes makes a great salad.
  4. If you want a classic macaroni salad, add 3 tablespoons to ½-cup mayonnaise and mix with 2 cups of cooked macaroni.
  5. During football season, make this delicious snack: ¼-cup pickle liquid with one jar of barbecue sauce and one large bag of little sausages in a crock-pot. Heat thoroughly and serve in crock-pot to keep warm.
  6. Don’t like the flavor of pickle juice here are just two things that juice can be used for: cleaning copper pans and controlling weeds. Just douse the weeds with the pickle juice. Weeds hate all that vinegar and salt. As for the copper pots, pour a little bit of the brine onto a sponge and clean.

Tilly: The pickle juice also makes interesting salad dressings, especially the kimchi juice.

For a look into the past try this Elizabethan recipe:

  1. To preserue Cowcumbers all the yeere. Take a galon of faire water, & a pottle of veriuice, and a pint of bay salt, and a handfull of green fennell or Dill: boyle it a little, and when it is cold put it into a barrel, and then put your Cowcumbers into that pickle, and you shal keep them all the yeere.

From Sir Hugh Platt’s Delightes of Ladies to adorne their Persons, Tables, Closets, and distillatories with Beauties, banquets,perfumes and waters. Reade, Practise, and Censure 1602.

Tilly: Verjuice?

Olive: Gees, Tilly “Verjuice (/?v??r?d?u?s/ VUR-jooss; from Middle French vertjus ‘green juice’) is a highly acidic juice made by pressing unripe grapes, crab-apples or other sour fruit.  Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed. (1989)

Sometimes lemon or sorrel juice, herbs or spices are added to change the flavour. In the Middle Ages, it was widely used all over Western Europe as an ingredient in sauces, as a condiment, or to deglaze preparations. It is still used to some extent in the American South.

Tilly: Jeez, Olive … I know very well what verjuice is – I was querying a possible typo.

Well, I am done laughing now. I am sure y’all just understood every word right.

Tilly: What’s not to understand? It’s plain English …

Olive: Tilly, and you studied English where and when?

Tilly: English A-Level covered previous ages of English.

See below for the modern version:

A pottle is a Elizabethan unit of measurement. A pottle is a ½ gallon or 2.25l


500ml water (if using tap water boil and set aside to cool before use to remove any chlorine) 250ml verjuice or white wine vinegar 2 1/2 tbsp sea salt 500ml baby cucumbers (gherkins) a few sprigs of dill or fennel fronds To Preserve Cucumbers Preparation: Method: Combine the water, verjuice (to acidulate the brine) and salt in pan. Bring to a boil and cook for a few minutes. Take off the heat and allow to cool slightly. Wash and pat the baby cucumbers dry. Pack onto a large jar with the dill or fennel. Pour the hot (but not boiling) brine over them and seal securely with a vinegar-proof lid. Allow to cool, label and set aside for at least two weeks to mature before opening. Once opened, store in the refrigerator.



Olive and Tilly


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6 thoughts on “To Brine or Not to Brine

  1. You two ladies always make my mouth water with expectation. I love a good pickle, although I never tried the actual deed of creating one. I will see what pickle juice does to other veggies. Sounds delicious.

  2. There is nothing quite as good as a pickle, dill pickles. Why anyone would make, much less eat sweet pickles I will never understand, yuck!!!
    A few years ago when my first great grand was still in the oven and gender was not known, her KiKi (my daughter) started calling the baby pickle. At her baby shower we made dill pickles as a gift to all who attended. They were easy to make and turned out to be yummy. I hadn’t thought of that for awhile I think I’ll make them again.

      1. I’ll check with my daughter, they were her idea. However, Brooke is now 6 and much bigger, so she may not have the recipe. Not only is Brooke bigger than your average pickle, she is the sweetest little girl I’ve ever known and we agreed sweet pickle are no bueno!!!!

        1. So does Brooke like pickles. My mother craved bread and butter pickles when she was PG with me. To this day I hate those things.

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